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    Supervisor is not collaborative and is secretive


    User: eloise567 - 26 January 2023 20:56


    Hi all,
    I’m in the third year of my PhD in the UK. To summarise my PhD project looks at two different but overlapping disorders. I have 2 supervisors - supervisor A is a professor based in the university and is my lead supervisor who has expertise in disorder X. Supervisor B is more junior but has expertise in disorder X and Y and probably has more informal input into my project as he has expertise in disorder Y which my lead supervisor does not. My second supervisor B is not based at the university but based at a nearby centre. Essentially both of them are very supportive and helpful.

    I have found the PhD extremely stressful for multiple reasons - covid, a feeling of lack of progress/ lack of outputs and publications. I have also struggled to cope from a mental health perspective (which I know is common during PhDs). I sought counselling and CBT for this but did not tell my supervisors. I have accepted that the PhD hasn’t really gone to plan but my priority is to ensure I complete it.

    Although my supervisors are supportive, supervisor B is not at all collaborative and I worry that I may have missed out on opportunities within my university because of this. There are other researchers within my university who have expertise in disorder Y (my lead university supervisor does not hence why I applied for my own research funding with supervisor B who I already knew). Supervisor B doesn’t really want me to meet or interact with any of the other researchers who have expertise in disorder Y at the university. I think he might have had a negative experience with a researcher there who has overlapping research interests. He is very protective of the work and is quite secretive and encourages me to also be like this (with the other researchers in the university not with my lead supervisor obviously).

    This makes me feel very uncomfortable as actually I would like the opportunity to meet with the other researchers who are working in this field especially as they are on the same campus. It also becomes awkward if I see any of them at conferences. I also sometimes think I might have had a more positive experience if I had had more of a community with some of these other researchers at the university and had other opportunities when my own project was failing.

    Does anyone else have any similar experiences? Or advice?

    I’m trying not to dwell and feel my priority is just to finish the PhD with the support of my supervisors but I do feel negatively impacted by this. I also don’t feel I can go against my supervisor B and go and meet with the other researchers as he will be annoyed.

    User: rewt - 02 February 2023 19:15

    Quote From eloise567:
    Supervisor B doesn’t really want me to meet or interact with any of the other researchers who have expertise in disorder Y at the university. I think he might have had a negative experience with a researcher there who has overlapping research interests.

    My PhD supervisor was something similar. She was paranoid about someone else stealing reserach ideas because of one bad experience. Long story short, when she was a postdoc, she talked with an eminent professor about an idea she was working on and about a year later he published work far superior to what she was doing at the time. Therefore she thought he had stolen her idea and was thus paranoid. The funny thing is I have recently started a postdoc with a sperate group that was part of the eminiment professor's project. I got a copy of the report at my new uni and found they had been working on the idea long before her. So there was no idea "theft" and my supervisor became overly protective of ideas/data over something trivial. Personally I think that you are deluding yourself to think that you have a wholey unique idea that no-one else in the field has thought about before. The limitations in research are usually time and money not who has the better idea. So telling someone else your idea is far far more likely to create an interesting conversation than idea theft.

    Back on topic. You don't have to do everything your supervisor says. They can be paranoid but you don't have to be. I would talk freely with other people but be quite to supervisor B about it.





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